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		<title>By: phillsacre.me.uk &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Post-Feminism</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] while back I wrote a blog post &#8216;about&#8217; feminism. Well, sort of, more about the lad&#8217;s mag culture and what have [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 22:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Matthew, it depends what level of the physical nature you&#039;re talking about. My issue is not so much with a calendar but with so-called &quot;lad&#039;s mags&quot; and the whole &quot;lad culture&quot; which basically seems geared up to objectify women. Men apparently want to see pictures of topless girls, very well - that&#039;s what they are given. Surely that does not help at all.

Furthermore - are you suggesting that we should value people who are attractive more? (If you can play devil&#039;s advocate, so can I). Does that mean someone who is physically disfigured is of less value than someone who is young, good looking and &#039;hot&#039; by the world&#039;s standards?

Of course not!

Anyway sorry for rambling, I think I just get annoyed by the casual nudity inflicted on us by today&#039;s culture. It cannot be productive. Yes, bodies are not &#039;inconsequential&#039; but I think the showcasing that goes on simply encourages us to value someone purely on the physical rather than taking a more holistic approach.

I&#039;m sorry if that sounds pretentious... I&#039;m tired :p]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew, it depends what level of the physical nature you&#8217;re talking about. My issue is not so much with a calendar but with so-called &#8220;lad&#8217;s mags&#8221; and the whole &#8220;lad culture&#8221; which basically seems geared up to objectify women. Men apparently want to see pictures of topless girls, very well &#8211; that&#8217;s what they are given. Surely that does not help at all.</p>
<p>Furthermore &#8211; are you suggesting that we should value people who are attractive more? (If you can play devil&#8217;s advocate, so can I). Does that mean someone who is physically disfigured is of less value than someone who is young, good looking and &#8216;hot&#8217; by the world&#8217;s standards?</p>
<p>Of course not!</p>
<p>Anyway sorry for rambling, I think I just get annoyed by the casual nudity inflicted on us by today&#8217;s culture. It cannot be productive. Yes, bodies are not &#8216;inconsequential&#8217; but I think the showcasing that goes on simply encourages us to value someone purely on the physical rather than taking a more holistic approach.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry if that sounds pretentious&#8230; I&#8217;m tired :p</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 20:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d like to throw a proverbial cat amongst the pigeons here, possibly with a touch of Devil&#039;s Advocate - I agree that we should appreciate women&#039;s brains, but does that need to be at the expense of our physical nature?  The quotation seems to imply that our bodies (male or female) are inconsequential, or at the very least a mere distraction, and should not be given a second thought.  Just a thought, but surely &#039;equality&#039; should not favour one organ (i.e. the brain) over the rest of the body?

To take my observation a step further, should we be equally objecting to men posing topless?  Otherwise, surely, that&#039;s showing a sexually oriented bias against women, which would tend to defeat the object of their argument.

;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to throw a proverbial cat amongst the pigeons here, possibly with a touch of Devil&#8217;s Advocate &#8211; I agree that we should appreciate women&#8217;s brains, but does that need to be at the expense of our physical nature?  The quotation seems to imply that our bodies (male or female) are inconsequential, or at the very least a mere distraction, and should not be given a second thought.  Just a thought, but surely &#8216;equality&#8217; should not favour one organ (i.e. the brain) over the rest of the body?</p>
<p>To take my observation a step further, should we be equally objecting to men posing topless?  Otherwise, surely, that&#8217;s showing a sexually oriented bias against women, which would tend to defeat the object of their argument.<br />
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