Is it ‘Game Over’ for the Church of England? – Podcast #70


4 responses to “Is it ‘Game Over’ for the Church of England? – Podcast #70”

  1. David L White avatar
    David L White

    Greetings in the Precious Name of our LORD and Saviour, Jesus Christ.
    Very much agreed with much / most of what you said.
    It all takes me back to 1968 and the 1st National Conference of Evangelicals and the Saturday evening meeting chaired by John Stott and the passionate preaching of Dr Martyn Lloyd Jones, Calling Evangelicals to come our to ‘Doctrinally Mixed’ denominations and to come under the umbrella of what, in those days, was called the British Evangelical Council.
    John Stott has been proved wrong. MLJ has been proved right, BUT still the Evangelical have still NOT ‘come out from among them’ and become separate.
    May I suggest you revise by reading Esther through one more time, please!
    May th egood Hand of our God be upon you! Yours because His, David

    1. Greetings to you David, likewise. Thank you for your comments.

      I think I basically agree with you that MLJ was on the money and Stott was wrong. Anyone who’s had their finger on the pulse of what is going on in the CofE in recent years can see that, as MLJ said, we had a “paper church” – doctrinally orthodox on paper but not enforced or believed in practice. And a church which does not believe in practice is a church which eventually is not going to be orthodox on paper.

      I hope, however, that even though mistakes were made in the past, this can be a moment where orthodox believers can come together and realise this is the moment that things need to change. I think perhaps God is sifting the church at the moment, and I hope will lead to a greater zeal and purity.

      Thank you for correcting me with Esther – I realised as soon as I stopped recording that I’d said the wrong name!

      I was leading a Bible study session tonight on the providence of God, and it is a comfort to know that the Lord will build his church regardless of human failures.

      God bless you, Phill

  2. John Corcoran avatar
    John Corcoran

    Regarding the 2 Corinthians 6 v 14 reference, the Weymouth translation adds like Oxen yoked with Asses. My study Bible has a cross reference to 1 Kings 18 v 21(Elijah and the prophets of Baal). Verse 17 has a cross reference to Isaiah 52 v 11 (surely in Paul’s mind) which is very strong in the NET Bible. We looked at this in our weekly Bible study, and I felt both references were in the Apostle’s mind and fitted the situation in the Corinthian church.
    It is not just the C of E which is affected, other denominations and groups will face similar challenges. I think you are correct in using the words heresy and evil.

    1. Thank you John for your comment. Yes Isaiah 52:11 fits very well, as does 1 Kings 18. The message is surely clear, that we cannot serve two gods. I agree that many denominations are affected, and are going to have to consider carefully what it means to belong in a church which wavers between two opinions. I am glad you don’t think I’m going too far with heresy and evil – what we are facing is serious indeed!

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